The Separation of Church and Reality

 Welcome to another episode of the Carpe Feade podcast where if the shoe fits you wear it and if the truth hurts you bear it I am Justin Gruber and I am Jesse Gruber and today we hope you will seize the faith Hey everybody welcome episode 229 of the Carpe Feade podcast How are you Jesse? We're doing okay. I slept in my bed last night which is helpful for this night. No, I'm feel like I'm starting to get sick. I don't know if it's just me. I stopped on my roof. What? Did you have a parapet? Don't tell Luke. Oh no, he says we don't have that parapet anymore. Remember? No, he doesn't. He doesn't say that. It doesn't matter. Well, I think we need to have him on again so that we can re-go over everything that he stands for because that's not what he stands for. Yes, no, we're definitely in violation of biblical law. So many laws. But not really because there was no penalty. We're not doing that episode again. We already did that episode once. We can't have one again because there's so many fun more things to discuss on that. That's neither here nor there. This is a brand new podcast. We're not doing an old podcast. You want to hear us talk to Luke saying about immigration? Give us a comment. If you want to hear that, we should. Yeah, drop a comment. I like that. I would like to do. It doesn't look everybody. I'm not saying this is going to be the longest podcast ever. This is not going to be the longest carbifida podcast because Jesse's getting sick and he sounds like that. Oh, it's just gross and like visually I'm seeing fluids. It gets a thing. But what I wanted to talk about. You're not seeing anything. I've seen tissues. Look, we've been prepping for a little bit here. I've seen things. I can't see them. There's still a tissue. Like there's still there's like there's fluids. I'm telling you there's blood there. To having it. It is. All right. What I want to talk about. No one gets set. Everybody calm down. Okay. Calm down. I want to talk about the rededicate 250 prayer rally. And I know that we all have opinions as God loving Bible believing Christians. On choice of speakers. On whether or not they were pastors. Whether or not they were obviously directly violating the scripture as trying to become a pastor. The whole thing. Look, I know we can have opinions. I just want to talk about the reaction from the progressives. Because while we many Christians in America. That desire to hold tightly to God's word and follow it. Be faithful to God in His word. Might have our own opinions of the rededicate 250 prayer rally. We should all be very united against the absolute hot trash reactions. That have come out from the progressives about rededicate 250. It is the level of actual ignorance about the founding of America is very intense. It's super, super bad ignorant. I mean, is that okay? Just it's like this is a safe safe to do this. I think people have a lot of opinions. I don't want to get too far into it. I don't think you've gotten too far. I feel like that's a fairly safe. All right. If we can table our opinions about whatever speaker you disagree with that rededicate 250. I like Pete Hickseth. I like Pete Hickseth. Possibly the strongest Christian voice that was there. I try to think of the word and I'm making sure I'm saying it. Possibly the most banal Christian adjacent gathering you could possibly think involving prayer. Like this is nothing like this is the reaction to this is crazy because the reaction is Christian nationalists are going to take away your freedom. That's that's the reaction. And I'm looking around like bro there I need there is now what you you missed it guys none of those people like you you're worried about like those people. Those are the people you're worried about see I'm worried about them because I think some of them you know sacrifice significant doctrinal integrity on things you're worried because you think those are the Christian nationalists. I'm like. Nope. Not exactly. All right. Yeah. I mean I have questions about a lot of the speakers but on principle. The event I have zero problems with the spirits of the event at all. That's a great way to say like zero. I mean if I could if I could have my pick of a list I mean that'd be great. I think that if if anyone and I didn't watch it obviously I don't have a full date of dedicate to watching. Yes and to be honest a live stream but neither did I. So I mean you know this is not a review of of America redacted 250. But I mean if the gospel was preached at all I would say that's great and that wouldn't change my stance on people like Paula white and whatever this guy is that calls himself an apostle. I think that's wild. I think that's wild that he believes he has seen the resurrected Lord and savior but. I mean like Paula I'd just be like cool if the guy if the gospel did go forward if at any point I think that's a good thing and the spirit of the event. America to say that America is not overwhelmingly steeped in Christianity at its founding is an absolute abysmal and wild take and honestly just the product of. The public school system because perhaps they can't read I don't know kids kids who don't read good. But yeah I have zero problems with the event I still really I mean I really don't still have any problem with the matter of Christian nationalist. Like I feel like I'll do that that expository but you you you're not on social media as much as I am do you see that expository parenting page. Facebook and my call these people this is going to be more problematic than anything else that we that you've said no I have expository parenting I'm not aware of any controversy they come they come against all forms of Christian nationalism and they they they brought brush and extremely. Spectrums. Conversation and they boil it down to that's bad and so they attack just anybody who would claim that. But I again I have no problem with Christian nationalism on principle and also depending on how you define it but I would I would believe that. Where my theology is at and where my soul script or my other four solos are at I have no problems with calling myself a Christian nationalist as long as you give me two seconds to explain what that might mean. And so I would love an event like this and I'm thankful that Pete Heggseth was there. Because I do know that he's that he is solid and that he is he seems to be a faithful Christian in and in as much as I can see. So I mean I'm down I'm down can we do one next year and can I pick the list because I think that'd be even better. Yeah dude are we going to do a carpet feed a rededicate America to 51. Yeah let's do it I and instead of a hundred thousand will get maybe like ten. Come on carpet feed a list or we could probably get. Twenty I think we get a hundred people together that way dude. No way dude I have a lot of friends I have a lot of friends that I really really care about. If someone told me if someone would have invited me to their house for this kind of the thing I would have to have a facility like we would be too many people for a house be a facility. Oh you were thinking house did I miss that part I apologize. I mean I'm just saying like if they're just like hey can you can you come to my event we're we're doing a rededicate America to 51. They could meet pops I'd be like no I come that's true we do have pops nobody else's pops. Nobody else has pops. That's facts. It's facts. It's a huge win. I mean and many forget but they could also meet Ma. She was on a podcast too. Yeah she was on one. Yeah. All right let me let me go at it I you could there are no shortage of articles but this one kind of hit all the right points for me. We love history. All right so if you love the Bible we love history. So we love history here and we love American history. So I found one particular article that kind of touched on all of the bugaboo's in one. This is an opinion piece in USA today. The main title of the article is rededicate 250 focuses on evangelical Christian rededic sorry I'm trying again we're trying again as you were saying. So I was a rededicate 250 focus on evangelical Christians in un-American. Oh. Yeah that's what it says. Yep. I'll give you the rest leave you the subheading. More than half of Americans support the separation of church and state yet Trump is spending your tax dollar on rededicate 250 to push one version of religion the only government favored faith. Now I don't know about you. I don't think any of them said that biblical Christianity is the only version of religion that's favored by the government. And I feel like our governments made up a lot of different people that leave some different things. I mean we got some. Yeah we got a lot of nut jobs in our government and I just want to say no one said that this is the prescribed government religion of America of America. And what's that? How would this right? Because most people that would even come close to saying that also generally have a typical. Have a typically pretty fair understanding of the constitution and what it limits our government to actually do. Yeah. Mainly because those people can read. Maybe because they haven't allowed brain rot to infect them. Oh in all fairness, the article was written by Chris Brennan. Chris Brennan is a national columnist for you. I should do today. He writes about people or politics. He previously worked as a reporter, political editor and columnist at the Philadelphia Daily News and the Philadelphia inquirer. So he's kind of a homegrown guy for us. Yeah. Another one. Yeah it's okay. Yeah, yeah liberals. So I'll just read some. I'm just going to read some of it and there's a few things I want to pull on particularly because I think it's really important. Officials from President Donald Trump's administration and and evangelical Christian leaders plan to gather quote with scripture testimony prayer and re dedication of our country as one nation to God. It's on literally all of our money. I don't know why. Why should we have a problem with that? The next paragraph ready. That description is a lie. Oh. So the description they put out about the event. That's a lie. Instead he'll tell you what it is. The real plan here is to push one distinct version of religion. And here's the distinct version of religion everybody. Right wing mega heavy politically motivated Protestantism. Oh. As the only government favored faith for our entire country. That's what it was about. So. I don't know what's going on. I'm a Protestant. Yeah, that's. Yep. I mean, but like what. People think they're cute and they're cool when they like just lump a whole bunch of like adjectives together. But the problem is they expect me to like care. Or they expect it to like mean something to somebody. It's just gibberish nonsense. They don't they don't know. They don't know what anyone's like they they're too stupid to understand any of those words. To even try to string them together. Yes, it's very frustrating. It's very frustrating to me. Like I love it when people on Facebook like if I share something right and then someone comes in and it's like, you're this and you're the one I'm like. Or if I like comment on like a news article or like like a public news article or like my gosh. Senator Cory Booker. Oh my gosh. You know, people people just come in with their assumptions and I'm like. Cory Booker is an. Embecile. He's bro is highly vaccinated. Highly he is. He is highly vaccinated. Highly vaccinated. And it shows. Like it's all over. And it's not just because of his eyes. Yeah. He both what does the same place at the same time. It's so big. But like, but like people come in there and they start accusing of all sorts of different crap. And I'm like, usually I just reply high and I'm not stranger. Thanks. Thanks for your kind words. Just to keep fiery colds upon their head. Amen. Basically this guy said in the next paragraph. That this rally quote, brazenly and intentionally violates the first amendment of the US Constitution. Now, I know what you're thinking. This event sounds like it was filled with free speech. Oh, it's about to say what? See, I knew what you're thinking. But no, he means respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. What he fails to see is that this was not establishing a national religion. But it was respecting the practice of a religious actions. I was about to say as someone who's fairly invested in Christianity, I did not get the newsletter that said that America's official religion is Christianity from the federal government. I missed that. I mean, is he not know what the laws of our country are like to think that we've established this? We can't read. He doesn't know. Ablished Christianity as the national religion. We're going to have to have a serious conversation about a lot of things that are on the books then, bud. But I'm all about it. That's what you think's happening. Maybe let's go for it. Honestly, I'm all for establishing Christianity. His religion is down. He then says, this is part of a larger attempt to undo the decrees. The men we call our nations quote, founding fathers wrote into our first laws mandating a separation between church and state. And right away, the history of Afro-Misai says, you're confusing a law with a letter. Hold on one second, sir. Could you take me to the part in the Constitution that talks about separation between church and state? Were you asking me? Was that rhetorical? Can you take me to that law, Jesse? Oh, yeah. Well, it's right. I think it's redacted now. It's been redacted. The Epstein files got a hold of it. Yeah. Protect the names of the victims. The victims being morality. I think it's a good idea to say that the term, just for all of you, have been faithful listeners to the Krabi-Feedy podcast, you will know that the term separation between church and state, or more generally the separation of church and state, is not a constitutional phrase. The most clear is the First Amendment, which is, will establish no national religion, which makes perfect sense, coming from Christians who were persecuted in their denominational beliefs by England, where they left. Right. That's almost like, if things don't happen in isolated little snippets, or in isolated little dots on a timeline, it's almost as if, I don't know, all of history is connected in some way. Yeah, I feel like progressive is genuinely think, or at least they hope, or possibly hope for a new, that the American Revolution was in any way like the French Revolution, but it wasn't, not even a little bit, not remotely. The American Revolution was founded on the reality that God is the one who gives, life, liberty, and property. The French Revolution was founded on the energy of arrogant men desiring more for themselves. Just to be clear. And the results couldn't be clear. Oh, yes, no. You'll note that the conscience is for one. Or women shave their armpits for one. Yes, and A-med. If you don't shave your armpits, ladies, we're not judging you. It's not a big deal. Like, totally, I'm over it right now. Right. You're just French. You can't help being French. Like, you can't help being born a man or born a woman, you know. Or a woman. Or a boy's can be the dead. Thank you, Mr. Rogers, for the lightful gender reality in song. Anyway, back to history. For those of you that are long time listeners, you know that the separation of church and state is not in the Constitution. Or this highly vaccinated individual calls our first laws mandating a separation between church and state. Rather, this phrase is found in a letter from Thomas Jefferson sent to the Danbury Baptist. I, you can Google Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist. That's D-A-N-B-U-R-Y. And you can get the, it's, it's a sink. It's not super long. That is where you will find the phrase. I will read you this, the sentence that it is in. I contemplate with sovereign reverence. That act, the whole American people, which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state. That's where it is. Oh, sorry. The quote ends at or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Then he says, thus building a wall of separation between church and state. When he says state there, he means national government. And when he says church, he means not establishing a national church. That's the exact communication of the phrase. We know this because he's directly quoting the national Constitution, just to be clear. He does go on to say adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience. I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments, which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, can convince he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. Ironically, they did say that they were praying for him. So I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common father and creator of man and tender you for yourselves and your religious frustrations assurances of my high respect and esteem. If you're in the government, you can't pray for people. You can't talk about God. It's a violation of the First Amendment. Morons. Yes. Because that's what they want. They want it silenced. They want zero. They want they want to control speech, which is actually a violation of the first. Yeah. If we're talking about actual real real things that really happen, everyone has free speech unless you're elected into government office in which you cannot have any free speech, which less you're talking about. That's true. That you know, Islam is great. So I think you can. You can also pray to Brahma. That was the thing that happened. Let's not forget that. I'm old enough to remember when some dude prayed to Brahma having no idea who Brahma was. I said Amen and I will remember that. That's what he said. That was the worst prayer I've ever seen or heard in my entire life. I've grown up in church. I've heard a lot of really bad prayers, but that one is the last because it was a prayer to a demon. So that's what happens. You ready? Dude. So I have two tangents. One is on the topic of free speech. Brother Juan over in Chicago. He posted a video where they were giving him a ticket, a citation for standing outside of the abortion clinics there. Now the rule is that you obviously can have presence there. You obviously can speak there, but you can't approach other people. So obviously the people during the ministry know the laws because they're not violating them and they have to know them in order not to violate them. But he was taking the old guy that as well. Yeah. And and Juan clarified multiple times in the video with the police officer. So you're citing me for the things that I said. You're citing me for my words. And he's like, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, you made a child. You are an asshole. Part of the city is owned by one. Everything. One turns the whole city into a restaurant and sells amazing food. And then abolishes abortion. A abolishes abortion and serves and serves the homeless amazing food. Yes. Oh, man. But that was my first tangent. My second tangent. I just saw that blonde B article. It's a not the B article. This BBC headline. Selling children to survive. Afghan fathers forced to make a possible choice. Yes. We could have done that. Oh, I want to talk about that so much. The I first of all, this is your fault. Everyone I had one thing I want to talk about. And then I was going to get out. Jesse just just Jesse did this. That article. Let me just say that these. You want me to be real like super reductive in this. Those men are selling their five and seven. And that's not the way that's not made up ages. Those are the ages of the people, humans that we're talking about in the story. Five and seven year old daughters. Into what can only be described as sex slavery. Because Joe Biden pulled out of Afghanistan. So you're welcome. You know what wasn't happening when we were in Afghanistan without casualties at all. Just chill in there. Keep it every. Letting. Letting women like not be sex slaves. Feeding people. You know wasn't happening. People starving under Taliban control. And five year old to being sold into sex slavery. So. Go ahead and like this story makes me so angry. Like it makes me so angry. Like they're complaining like this is horrible. How could this happen? It wasn't happening. Everything was freaking fine. And then we gave hundreds of millions of dollars in military equipment to a terrorist. Religious extremist Muslim. Organization who has then put the boot on the throats of their population. What did you think was going to happen? You idiots stupid. One of the comments whoever wrote this article needs to seek Canadian healthcare. That's awful. That's so. That's what Canada does. But it's really saving them a lot on having to pay for the healthcare of those people. Because they're dead now. That's so sad. All right. So this article. Sorry back to our actual topic. This article. Sites a few research survey released in May 14th that sites. Emphatically in almost every way that Americans support a separation of church and state just to be clear. It also said that 52% of conservative Christians have gone too far. Which by the way. Not even remotely. They're not even close yet. Oh man. They're going to like what's coming. No. And to this I want to say yeah absolutely I want to be clear. I. I support a separation of church and state. If what we're talking about is any of these fools that are in office right now. I don't trust any of them. Because we'll end up with some sort of atheist Muslim hybrid. It's going to be really weird. Progressive Islam. I don't want to be a part of that. Is that where is that where they all become gay and throw each other off of the roof? Is that I think it's where they force trans everyone. Oh, because if everyone becomes trans at the same time, then it's the race users even still. Yeah, I think that's what it is. Oh, it's not like if everyone's special. No one is. Yeah, that's just life is normal. So that's that's just something I want to say right out like, hey cool. Like totally on board with it. I just want everyone to understand something. This reality of that statement means it's not mean that states can't actually have. Supported tests for their public offices and promote religious activity. The fact states have always promoted religious activity. Days of prayers, days of fasting, even the nation itself supports days of prayers, days of fasting. I think it was I think it's seven states, even at the time of them being in the first states of the United States of America. All had religious tests for for biblical Christian orthodoxy in order to be in office. So I just wanted to clarify I want to blow all of your minds with that. That's a reality. And when I say like they didn't just say, hey, you believe in that Jesus is the savior of the world that he's how you've gotten forgiveness of sins and that God has sovereign overall things right they didn't just ask questions that somebody could say yes to they made them read. Those exact those types of like high lofty words when they were sworn in now I'll move past that. But to be clear, most Americans don't understand what separation of church and status this person writing this article also does not understand what the separation of church and status where it comes from what it means. What it's implications are this there will never be a under this constitution there will not be a national mandated sanctioned religion where if you do not conform to this we will we will find you jail you execute you that's what this constitution says. This cut this nation has always promoted religious practice under explicitly Christian and yes Protestant Christian terms. You have to believe me. I will then go to one of my favorite segments in this article. This vaccinated individual right then there's an unintentional irony of re dedicate to 50s website using 1975 Arnold Freiberg painting the prayer at Valley for which depicts George Washington kneeling in the snow I believe that's I have to Google something. One moment please well that's we're here or so here. Yeah. Yeah. Oh gosh. What happened? What did I miss? Something just happened? No, I'm just browsing X while you're doing that and I found this account it's called tune my heart podcast and it's a podcast exploring animated films and search for demon themes ideas relevant to the Christian faith and trace of eternal truth. But their logo looks like it came from a gospel tract from the 80s and then my heart just sank. Sounds right. I will continue reading. Thank you. And there's an unintentional irony of re dedicate to 50s website using the 1975 Arnold Freiberg painting the prayer at Valley for which depicts George Washington kneeling in the snow next to his horse on display at the Museum of the Bible in Washington. It has been labeled there as portraying an imagined moment of prayer quote an imagined moment of prayer. We dedicate to 50 leans hard on the quote imagined part because Washington I would just listen to this man everybody because I'm about to We're about to have a serious conversation. We dedicate to 50 leans hard on the quote imagined part because Washington our first president was a religious man but never wanted to force his faith on other Americans. He didn't just call for government toleration for different religions. He wanted full freedoms for all creeds. If you read that Jesse if you were to read that. Just that paragraph. What would you think George Washington wanted for religion in America? The same thing that that you know any Democrat wants for religion in America. Right that you can practice all really you can be a Satan Satanist. Right. You can be a you can be a Muslim. That's what I mean George Washington that's really what he wanted. That's what he fought for he wanted full freedoms for all creeds. I'm going to tell you listener explicitly that is horse crap. That is the the RNA muddled musings of a vaccinated individual. I'm really trying to get the return retarded out of my vocabulary so I just replace to a vaccinated. A try it hard. A try it hard is perfectly fine. Just like America 250 I see no problem with the heart. If you can't vaccinated just understand I'm not making we were both vaccinated the same you and I honestly me probably more because I had to get like re vaccinated from nursing school or something. Yeah I mean no we've all been vaccinated for that I mean when I say that when we say vaccinated we all know what we mean. Oh just just the just the one we all know what we mean anyway. I'm going to take you now here's what's great about this article. This article is filled with absolutely meaningless hyperlinks that I want you to think that it gives the opinion of persons opinion and illegitimacy. The sentence he wanted full freedoms for all creeds is underlined in blue because it is a hyperlink. And that takes you to a wonderful little article on Mount Vernon dot org home of George Washington. No home of Thomas Jefferson right wait like it might. Mount Vernon was Washington Washington I would write first time I'm overthinking myself stop overthinking. Okay I would prefer to Jefferson's was yes more complicated name right yes it was um oh it was like a like a Greek thing it was um oh hold on I'm on it I'm on it Monticello Monticello was Italian it's Italian I mean it doesn't sound Greek to me it sounds more Italian to me but it sounds one of the yeah yeah Monticello all right so going back to this we're history we're history by guess now. I'm out of running dot org slash George Washington slash religion slash religious freedom the article is title religious freedom. The article subtitle is George Washington went past me religious toleration and established religious freedom for citizens that's what the subtitle is. This article is filled with words filled with them. And I've got to be very super clear just so super clear. The only religions mentioned in this article in America's founding are Protestants Catholics and Jews now I'm just going to tell you that's just in the words of the article all right that's just in the words of the article but this article has the unfortunate reality of using direct quotes from George Washington. Which will then undo both what the article the the opinion article and this article is intending to say altogether the spoiler alert is George Washington never imagined this nation in any mode of worship other than Christian now. Like possible statement let me read what he said. All right the article the article from out of writing dot org says after the revolutionary war many played a role in shaping the new government to ensure all religions had the right to practice. All religions is what it says. And then it includes people that certainly did not want all religions to be practiced including Thomas Jefferson James Madison and John Adams. Three famously Christian church attending individuals. It goes on however it was under the leadership of George Washington that freedom of religion was established. Writing while president quote being no no wait just I want you to take a second I want you to listen for where George Washington in this direct quote that is supposed to tell us that he was the ones who were establishing the freedom of religion for all religions. Listen for all the religions mentioned in this quote quote being no bigot myself to any mode of worship I am disposed to indulge the professors of Christianity in the church that road to heaven which to them shall sing the most direct plainest easiest and least liable to exception. Now dear listener did you hear all the religions mentioned in that quote. I mean he's turning he's turning you know religious practice over to any e-mom or rabbi or you know any shaman just any of those religious leaders. No no he's not he is disposed to indulge the professors of Christianity in the church that's who he's repealing to. And if that wasn't enough they went on George Washington was about 18th century Anglican. He regularly attended church and served as both a vestryman and church warden Washington was also tolerant of other religions is the word religions. Writing while president another direct quote now again your listener I want you to pick up one of the religions he was tolerant of in this direct quote from George Washington quote I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy which has marked the present the present age when at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination. So far we should never again see their religious carried to such it as the endangered society. Did you hear it did you hear it did you hear the other religions the other religions he was tolerant of there. Because it turns out the biggest issue inside of the founding of our nation was actually denominational issues inside of Protestant Christianity that was the divide. That was it the whole summary is there was there was sharp denominational divides on Protestant Christian views. Outside of Maryland which originally was Catholic until the Protestants. So control. And then it wasn't Catholic anymore. All right I'm sorry sorry. But let me be clear. I mean Jesse are you hearing any other things here. It's direct quotes that are supposed to tell us that he was tolerant and promoted the the tolerance of other religions and he established the freedom of all religions in these quotes am I missing it. Well I think I think it mentioned Scientology a bit in the middle. Now I did. Yeah. Well you've only read it three times I'm surprised that you've you've missed it. Where was it. Well you know it was it was right. Oh that's redacted too. I did. That's why I'm sorry. Now I do want to be I don't really like this last part. I'm not there trying. This is how hard they're they've used two quotes that show that George Washington. Promoted the Christian church and promoted civil civil behavior between the denominations of Christian it. Now this last closing one sentence of this article. It says there is all there is also evidence that in addition to Christianity which by the way that's all he was promoting everywhere Washington's enslaved community at Mount Vernon practiced Islam and other traditional African religions. Oh. They are trying so hard guys. It's really really want you to believe so bad that George Washington did it anyway. What did you promote other religions when in fact in fact every quote that they've used here only promotes Christianity. And then it's one of the most profound and most exaggerated and most aesthetically and wholeheartedly. I remind you that he is disposed to indulge the professors of Christianity in the church. That's who he is indulging. So anyway Mr. Brennan you've written an article and cited something as an idiot that doesn't say anything of what you were hoping it said. You meant the creeds of Christianity. You're right on but if you meant other like Islam your dead wrong you. He does actually mention that the wall of separation quote does come from Thomas Jefferson. In his next paragraph almost as an aside even though earlier he used it as if it was in our constitution are founding walls. I want to take a moment to say that this person has never himself read the first prayer of the Continental Congress a gathered in 1774. It is with this reality that I want Mr. Brennan to understand that at the very beginning of our fledgling nation that was about to enact war against the largest global power at that point in the history of the world. This well first I will tell you the context. When they gathered in September 5th and 1774 you had all the names all of them well except there was one state that didn't send any delegates to the first continental Congress. Georgia somebody one of the states didn't send any delegates to the first one they got there to the second one. We're talking George Washington, Patrick Henry Sam Adams, John Jay like all these dudes were there. Their problem was on the second day of the gathering they tried to get down to business and wanted to open in prayer. But they doubted that they could pray together since there were so many different denominations present. It was then Sam Adams who said that he was not a bigot and hear a prayer from anyone who quote who was at the same time a friend to his country. Why? Because everybody's denominations were Christian. He knew that if they were a friend of the country they were a Christian that was about to pray. It is with this in mind that they then selected Reverend Jacob Ducey. And Reverend Jacob Ducey at 9 o'clock in the morning on September 7th the second meeting of the first continental Congress prayed this. O Lord our heavenly Father, high and mighty King of kings and Lord of Lords who dust from thy throne behold all the dwellers on earth and rainest with power, supreme and uncontrolled over all the kingdoms, empires and governments. Look down in mercy we've achieved the on these are American states who have fled the from the rod of the oppressor and thrown them on like gracious protection, desiring to be henceforth dependent only on the to the have they appealed for the righteousness of their cause to the do they now look up to that countenance and support which thou alone can't give. Take them therefore heavenly father under thy nurturing care give them wisdom and counsel and valor in the field defeat the malicious designs of our cruel adversaries convinced them of the unrighteous of their cause and if they persist in their sanguine airy purposes of own unaring justice, sounding in their hearts constrain them a drop drop the web war from their unearthed ends in the day of battle be thou present O God of wisdom and direct the counsel of this honorable assembly, enable them to settle things on the best and surest foundation that the scene of blood may be speedily closed that order harmony and peace may be effectively restored and truth and justice religion and piety prevail and flourish among the people. Preserve the health of their bodies and vigor of their minds shower down on them and the millions they here represent such temporal blessings as thou seest expedient for them in this world and crown them with everlasting glory in the world to come all this we ask in the name and through the merits of Jesus Christ thy son and our savior amen. That's how you. Goodness gracious. Yeah, that was the first prayer of the Continental Congress that gathered to establish the declaration of independence. Yeah, that's something else. Pretty great. Pretty freaking awesome. The first president also interesting for those of you that would like to know history and like to know how long is the renin is about what our nation was founded in was Frederick Augustus Conrad Mullenberg. And that name should ring some bells coming from Pennsylvania Mullenberg was trained as a minister a lawyer and a minister that's who he was he preached the word of God and that name should sound so familiar because he shared a name with his brother who is also a delegate of the Continental Congress that man's name. You might know as Peter Mullenberg more fully John Peter Gabriel Mullenberg and he is the famous pastor from which we get the quote. There was a time to preach at a time to flight and now is the time to fight that sermon delivered on January 21 1776 in Virginia. This is the truth of the history of the founding of America. It was explicitly emphatically Christian. Yep. And anyone who says anything otherwise is just absolutely stupid is a bull. I was on my journey of just prayer just thinking about prayer and prayer our nation's history and prayer in Congress. I stumbled upon a book of prayers and these are from 1950 it like kind of listed different all the different sessions of prayers from 1950 to 1952. I'm like oh man. They probably got way off based in their faith. This is the first one which said, oh thou who has revealed thyself as a prayer hearing and prayer answering God we humbly to teach thee to teach us how to pray grant that that daily we may enter into an intimate communion with the God of all grace whose wisdom never airs and whose strength never fails make a sensitive and responsive to the leading of thy spirit in our faith in the name of finding the way of blessedness and peace for our own beloved country and of all mankind inspire us with such integrity of character and conduct that we may stand before thee and our fellow man unafraid and undershamed in Christ's name we pray. And I was like, man, a lot's happens is like 52. In the name of Brahma, a man and all women. Wow. Yeah. Yep. We were founded as a Christian nation emphatically and absolutely unashamedly it is not in question. And to those of you who are like Thomas Jefferson was a deist he was a crappy deist that believed in providence even Benjamin Franklin who was certainly the most closest to our family and fathers to being an actual deist still believed in these high flutin ideas of capital P providence that God wasn't just out there he wound it up and let it go but that God was intimately involved in the providence of events which makes both of them really crappy quote unquote. Deists if that's what you want to believe Thomas Jefferson believed so hard so whole heartily in the Bible as a framework that he literally made a book of just the words of Jesus Christ and insured its publication and handing out to every purpose every person that was elected in Congress so that every person in Congress had a book of just the words of the word. And the words of Jesus Christ. That's what people refer to as the Jefferson Bible by the way it wasn't his personal Bible that he call the words out that because all the miracles out of no it was it was him specifically going through and putting together a book of the words of Christ for every member of Congress so that no person Congress could ever sit down without having in their possession. Words of Jesus Christ as they then legislated get the fudge you you disgusting progressive liars. You discussed me with this with to quote Dr. Seuss with the nauseous super noss. I'm sorry I just went on historical tirade. Yeah, no I I'm still here in case anyone wondering. It's all it's all good. It's all good. I'm sparing you all because we've probably gone too long now as it is I'm sparing you all the reality for me pulling out several of my books and quoting to you directly from them on the Christian founding of America citing first citing first level sources. This is ridiculous nonsense. This is not the only article I accidentally click on our article of some of the stuff that I called rededicate 250 in America's Christian history. It's a very short article that says America didn't have a Christian founding and I'm like you're it you're an idiot. You're you're a moron. You're so overwhelmingly intensely ignorant completely and totally ignorant. Yeah. It's just the theme of so many people it's just so sad. But what are you going to do? Yeah. This is what I mean if they can't handle of a null event like rededicate 250 because it is too Christian for them. These people would never have survived America in 1880 where everyone knew more Bible than 90% of pastors and the pulpits today. You think these people could have survived in a place like little house on the prairie? Dude, Paul would have taken these people out behind a woodshed every day. He would have just been whooping on these people. Like this is the reality that we have forgotten and I just want to encourage you dear Christian. But whenever you hear some absolute full try to pull apart some quote by some founding father usually they will try to find Jefferson or Franklin or worse yet they'll they'll I lost the guy's name. Thomas pain they'll pull out Thomas pain is one of our founding fathers by the way by the way the man was a train wreck of a life and when he died. He basically kicked him out of America because of his debt and his ideas and his views on religion. It was his views on religion and his ability to have no religious morality and therefore a crew massive amounts of debt because it was a giant failure. They kicked him they essentially exiled him out of the state he was ostracized from the nation of America he was then ostracized from the nation of France. That's how bad Thomas pain was he came back to America and he died in absolute total aloneness no one came to his funeral. That's how they treated Thomas pain because after his first writing he then wrote basically an explicit targeting of faith and say that faith was totally ridiculous and not essential for living at all. And even that open DS Ben Franklin came to him and said like dude even if you think this is true about faith you can't be saying this stuff out right here bro. That like this is who they pull on because they have no hope because the mullenburgs were there they had no hope because John J was there. These are just so they had no hope because stocked in was there they had no hope there are names attached to our history we don't nothing about. She was I'm just I'm sorry I'll done ranting if you read an article or if you hear an imbus will talk like them please feel free to shut them up ask them how many vaccines they've gotten. And then inform them that they are emphatically wholeheartedly wrong I would suggest you send them to Mount Vernon dot org for that article direct code from George Washington. I'll stop this has been a great time for me I'm sorry if none of you had a good time. Sorry. This is what happens this is what happens when we when we talk about these topics this is why I interjected random little things in the middle there. I was I knew that at some point there was a ball that I could not stop from rolling down the hill. It's so bad it's so it's so bad. Just you can get a book called the sacred right of conscience the sacred rights of conscience it is a book that is only source material on the ideas of the sacred rights of conscience and whether or not that's some sort of a theory or liberal thought or whether it's an explicitly Christian thought by our founding fathers. It's really help you understand every time Jefferson uses a word like conscience and is led to the Danbury Baptist it'll it'll be really really helpful for you let me see if I can just pull up on a couple of books that you might all be interested in that would help you. I'm not a book in it's called offensive Christianity. Restoring the strength of men and a feminized a's by J. Chase Davis that sounds like a fun title. Yeah it was published by founders. It's a fun cover too. I like that. It's a historical perspective like strictly historical. The God of Liberty by Thomas kid is excellent. It's very long and very much history and it's all citing source materials and it's his goal is not to is no over Christian take on it is literally just oh you want to know what happened at the founding let me tell you what happened at the founding. Basically just unpack that for for you so that was a that's a long one but a good one. Where's the one I really want to recommend I'm trying to find it I have too many books on here. I feel shame right now. So you know why I know why. Why do you feel shame? No I know why I know why I'm not seeing it. Another book you can grab is did America have a Christian founding that's my Mark David Hall. You can look for Mark David Hall all over the place he writes a lot about the the fate about a faith role in the early he's a historian and he teaches at Fox University I believe. Did America have a Christian founding by Mark David Hall. You can also go to a website called the Liberty Fund which pretty much exclusively deals in books that are original writings preserved original writings. I recommend two volumes political entitled political sermons of the American founding they're broken down by age they are about two and a half inches thick and they are sermons delivered by pastors in America. Not names you'll know just the sermons of pastors written down. And you will read them you read them and say oh I think they had a pretty clear view about the station was rounded. Yeah the Liberty Fund another great place to go. It's not a game it's a very real thing. It's very real. It's only ignorance that allows ideas like this to exist. Thanks for coming to my TED talk have a great night. I had muted my mic because I blew my nose. I saw it but I was talking so I was just moving right through it. I saw the paper come out I saw the flash of white and the. It's almost like I experienced the sound of it visually. Okay. Anything else to add Jesse? No. No. All right. Absolutely not. We dropped it also an episode of blue in the Bible as we get you can hear it you should go check out blue in the Bible it was a lot of fun. Yeah. It will be. Yeah you know what it was fun. It was fun. And I don't want to I don't want to tease something that you know doesn't happen but we may be working on a brand new t-shirt. Brand new t-shirt. I'm going to say we because Jesse's here so he has to be incorporated but what I just ran it on for the last one forty five minutes. It will be a shirt to honor the ostensibly Christian founding of America as we celebrate two hundred and fifty years. Oh yeah that shirt is America is that not the one we're not thinking of the same thing no no I forgot that you pitch that idea to me I like that idea. Well I thought we were so firm in that you know what it's just an idea. I mean I've been doing things for the other shirt for so long that I completely forgot that I threw that idea you the other day. Yeah you did we discovered you didn't just virtually you can't be throwing ideas like that at me when you're 250 you know my like like I'm all about this anniversary. You know like let's be honest bro I'm I'm not making it the 300 bros are like this is a big one I might I might see 275 I'd be fun but I'm just saying 250 is a big one you'll see 275 but it's not as big as 250. No 250 is a big deal. I don't know why you think 275 should be bigger it's longer if you make it to 300 you you you got to be like you got to be like on the field at the Philly Stadium. I should have to be 300. Oh you have to do to live to be this old kids is not get the COVID-24 back. I'm a pure bloody American. Don't get the RNA jobs in you it's what's kept real live and at that moment I'll be assassinated by someone from Big Farma. Yes on on and then the Phillies will win in honor of your name. The Phillies will win despite the RNAs flowing to their bodies. Yes well this has been an episode of the Carpefeade podcast get excited for a potential 250 is sure they will have all the trimmings of all the Carpefeede and all the history and all the America that you come to know that we do love and whether or not you love America not the shirt will be totally BA. It'll cook hard real hard. Is that a phrase the kids are still using? I don't know not my kids. I was I've been informed that busing predominantly our first of food so you don't say that for anything else so. Oh I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I was told I don't even know to believe it. I can't tell anymore. It's just so fast with these words that don't mean anything. It's very confusing. Oh my gosh hold on. Hold on before we go hold on. Oh no people I'm so sorry I should have gone to that we had it we had a window and it's gone now. Now we have to listen to AOC. For people who say oh but you're you know you're you're harming a life I believe this is life well some religions don't. So how about that are Jewish brothers and sisters they are able to have an abortion according to their faith. There are so many faiths that do not have the same definition of life as fundamentalist Christians. And so I've got to say something real quick. I don't know. I just want everyone to understand something. There are many Jews that don't practice Judaism. The ones that practice Judaism aren't real big. There are kinds. There are kinds of Jews that AOC doesn't know about the ones that actually read the Old Testament. Is it? Exodus explicitly explicitly says like for like if you harm a baby in the womb. Stripe for a stripe you moron and I'll say like for like it's not like trading likes on Facebook it's stripe for stripe. It's of like kind. It's a life for life with it. But but any wounding if if a baby is born and has any deformation but survives it's it's like for like. I've never heard anybody say like that. That's the dumbest thing. I love you. I love you so much that I kind of hit you right now. We've been recording for an hour 15 minutes. Ain't nobody listening to this long anyway dude. I think we're the clear. All right. I'm showing that tab down. It's gone. Men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child. He looked at us prematurely. Yet there is no injury. He shall surely be fined as the woman's husband made demand of him. And he shall pay as the judge decides. Now I want to be clear. Some people have misread this. This is saying that if two men are being jack wagons and they bump into a pregnant woman. And and and the baby comes out prematurely. And it's fine. They still pay a fine for bumping into a pregnant woman because all preborn life under God must be protected. So even if they bump into her and it causes her to have the baby earlier than anticipated. They pay a fine. But if there is any further injury than you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise. The Bible is explicitly clear that if you kill a baby in the womb, you are put to death. I'm just saying. It's right there. And black away. Anyway, thanks Jesse for that. AOC is a tragedy that our nation is allowing people like that to make decisions legislatively in any way. I think that's the truth. And with that to your Christian, we hope you this day would see the faith.