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Zoomer Slop, Church Family Feuds, and Biological Reality
EP 228 CARPE FIDE MAY 8, 2026 by Jesse & Justin Gruber

Zoomer Slop, Church Family Feuds, and Biological Reality

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In this dispatch from the front lines, Jesse and Justin record from a new "zen" living room setup to equip the saints for cultural engagement. This episode tackles three major cultural skirmishes where Christians must hold the line and uphold a clear biblical standard:

  • The Church as a Family: The brothers draw their swords against a progressive article arguing that the church should stop using "family" language. They remind listeners that from our adoption as sons to the church as the Bride of Christ, Scripture breathes the reality of family into the church. We cannot abandon biblical language and conform to culture just because society has broken the family.
  • The Emptiness of City Living: Responding to a viral social media post mocking suburban life, the hosts expose the spiritual emptiness and anti-family foundation of modern city living. They contrast the fleeting fulfillment of weekend bar-hopping with the eternal value of building a grounded, lasting biblical legacy with your family.
  • Biological Reality at Smith College: Finally, they discuss the Department of Education's Title IX investigation into Smith College—a historic women's college—for admitting biological men into women-only spaces. The hosts highlight this as a refreshing return to the reality of only two biological sexes, while also warning listeners against aligning with extreme political echo chambers that lack a true biblical foundation.

We end musing on how philosophy without God leaves you endlessly studying but never learning. Know the Word, engage the culture, and stand firm. Grab your shields, take up your swords, and seize the faith.

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 Welcome to another episode of the Carpefeide Podcast where if the shoe fits you wear it and if the truth hurts you bear it. I am Justin Gruber and I am Jesse Gruber and today we hope you will seize the faith. Well hello everyone and welcome to episode 228 of the Carpefeide Podcast. How are you Jesse? I am so comfortable right now. It's insane. We're in a living room together. Yes, it's we've never done this before. Not like this. It's a whole new world. Oh my gosh. I just hope that we don't fall asleep in the middle of this. All things are possible. All things are possible. Which might be recorded podcast though. I was so zen though. So much. Well last time we tried to record a podcast and then nothing wanted to work. The mic didn't want to work. The computers, everything. It was just last week we abandoned ship and that's why you didn't have anything. And we were also doing a marriage conference for church which was amazing. St. Fire. We were a little preoccupied with that. We had Brian come up. We did an episode with Brian a few. Oh my gosh. Was it months ago now? Yeah. It was months ago. And months ago. Goodness gracious. Six of us. Brian for a long we had him on. Oldforgepress.com. Yes. It was a really good time. It was great to see him and his family and really centering marriages. Centering marriages on the foundation of the author of marriage God and building on all aspects. And so now we're going to try to record a real episode of Carbafide podcast. It feels almost impossible. And I'm sure some or a shattering event is going to happen right now to end it. But we're going to keep going. We're pressing on. I ran just modeled its constitution after the United States. I'm just kidding. Israel would never allow that to happen. The one I told is one I did to look. We still haven't seen him. He's definitely injured pretty badly. Oh, might be dead. Well, it might might not make it a lot of dead. Yeah. Yeah. Essentially it's a new regime because the older James alive. Bad things happen to them that they're not having a good time over there. No. I also have no idea what's going on over there anymore because I haven't listened to news in at least three weeks. I have no idea what's going on. We are we are done operation epic fury. We're in operation economic fury now. Oh great nation building. Yeah, no, just shutting down the street of our moves. So it forces them to actually. I mean that right now they have the they've gotten a capacity for nuclear weapons because we've. All of that into the ground and the only nuclear weapon is randomly shooting you know a rocket or a drone at a boat in the street of our moves. So we're just trying to take that nuke off the table by suffocating them until literally anything else can take over. Anything just so what you're saying is anything now's the time now's the time. Yes, people have Iran to sure for all the people that are in there listening to this podcast. Oh wait, you don't have internet. So I wasn't talking about from our podcast. I just mean that the call to action of the car maybe. Yeah, but yes, that's essentially what would that's essentially the potential next steps in a regime that will refuses to actually negotiate they basically think that they have more leverage than they do they don't really have any leverage. And honestly, what we this is where the whole state hood the whole state department department of war situation really should be separated out we should just be focusing on Department of War they should take car Island. And that's what they that's what they should do and once they do that then we can have a totally different conversation and move forward but we're just going to slow rolling it because Trump the dirty listening about Trump he really likes people living and doesn't want to put anybody in harm's way that he doesn't have to. And that's essentially why we're just doing the blockade right now. So there you go. Oh, I knew about the blockade so that's still happening. Oh yeah, that's still yep full force. Full force go team. Yeah, and then we have the just really funny I you know that you know I'm going to get his name wrong. Graham, Graham Platner in in Maine that's running for the Senate. Nope, I don't care about me. He's the he's the guy to running that has the Nazi tattoo on his chest. Oh, yeah, the big Nazi. I heard it described as if you're talking about like the struggles of every day man it I heard it described as main comp. I'm sorry, that's just a little that was just funny. Well funny little fun. Err. That's how you do that. That's so dumb. Well during the little secret about white supremacists white supremacists going to white supremacist. Oh boy is it. But that's not what we're going to talk about tonight. We're going to talk about three three separate three separate. They're their their topics their topics one is an article that recently for surfaced on some of our social media's and it's just so bothersome that we felt it was good to typically address this article. It's an old article it's actually from like two years ago. But it it surfaced in someone's post and it's like that articles are real problem. That's a real there's a lot of hermeneutical error in in this article. The article is called stop calling the church a family. Yes published in the UK publication. No, no, not there's no to it. It's just no. No, there's no. There's no to a. I want to take it to the basic premise the real premise of the article is found so white it's literally blinding me. No, it's a very way the dark mode is both white in in the color and also in the image used to which is a closer from the UK. It's almost it's almost like random hate speech. They should lock this person up. I'll go to the very end of the article in the last two paragraphs. You'll understand why the title is stop calling the church a family because the premise is. It's it's the R word it's retarded. But here's the basic premise from the last two paragraphs that this is supposed to be the conclusion but it's really the the thrust of the whole entire article. It says quote if you promise it up front with a lot of talking about how you aren't there yet you'll leave a lot of jaded people by the road who won't be able to wait until you're ready to actually do that for them. What's the takeaway the church is a community of people who are supposed to treat each other as siblings we live in a culture that makes that unnatural for us before we try and claim we're a family let's learn how to be a household. And what and what else in water and what else lives in households. So strangers. So the basic premise of the author is to say that because one culturally family is a broken thing and culturally we don't live in intimate communities. You shouldn't call the church a family because if you don't do it correctly all you do is hurt more people which you know basically that's what that's basically Christianity right if if if the culture is struggling with it just because God says it doesn't mean we should do it. You know because the culture defines what we should or shouldn't do not what God says in his word when literally every epistle refers to the church by familiar language like all of them. Yeah I think last time when we tried to record this the the tagline the subtitle the the main excerpt says is church a family and obvious yes right except where does it say that and I I changed it I said is God Trinitarian and obvious yes right except where does it say that like it is like the same thing applies it's like you can't get more blatant I don't even know if you can call it a name. I don't even know if you can call it an inference in good conscience like the the familial language is I mean just covered cover dude I mean it starts with a marriage it ends with a marriage I mean it's it's really bad and and literally when I mean every epistle I mean brother is called out in every epistle all of them you're like really all of them. Alright well yeah actually I think revelation even has I think they all have familiar language like Felieman yep first Timothy yep second to be the yep Corinthians both of them yes all of them have familiar language even the lost one has it in there the gospel of Judas has it that's a powerful we don't read that. But no the the the New Testament is one that breeze the reality of the family into the church and because a culture struggles with what family is the church actually is to be the light of what what God has ordained that's the whole crux of it that's why just because marriage is broken we don't stop relating to marriage in the church we don't stop relating to the fact that Christ is the bridegroom and we are the bride it is God's call how. He determines defines and instructs the church to be we don't we don't it's not ours and so we have to acknowledge that and if you do struggle with the family language of church and and maybe maybe it is a struggle in your church that doesn't mean you don't do it that means you fix it. Right like I don't know where else you're going to get a picture of what a good family looks like if you don't look to God's word like how are you going to have the ideal if you take the Bible out of the equation and say that the familial language is just hurtful to people with broken families know that the familial language throughout the scriptures provides us a rubric a framework a thing that you can't do. We don't want to strive for without that we strive for nothing we we will break our own families and do it quite well thank you but we need we need the we need that biblical language to set us straight or else our paths are just going to be crooked and they're just going to go all sorts of places like brokenness and destruction like that's what we do without the Bible. I think the real problem like truly is that we have allowed the church to become so much more of an institution than a family we have we we run it by bylaws instead of running it by the Bible and that's a that's a problem the problem is not that we we ignore what God is called the church we the problem is that we have ignored to do what the Bible has said. We need to do in the church that's that's where we need to reorient ourselves with the scripture it's just biblical of literacy I mean Paul and Ephesians says that we were chosen before the foundations of the world it says that we were adopted as sons. It's there's no more clear understanding of family than that and we're talking adoption the Greco Roman arena because in the Hebrew they they actually didn't have any form of legal adoption but the Romans did and Roman adoption by choice was a permanent a permanent relationship. In other words though you could disown a biological child you could not disown the child you chose and so when God when Paul uses this language here he has a specific understanding of adoption in mind that we were adopted as sons into a place of of preeminent lineage into God's family and we were chosen by choice by God and that that by choice they makes it a permanent thing and so we become joint areas with Christ literally. Brothers with him joint heirs to the kingdom there's there's just no way to understand that outside of a familiar understanding Paul when he writes he exhorts the brothers the brethren that's what he does we it would be it would be absolutely ignorant for you to set up a church in a corporate corporate artistic way as opposed to a familiar way you would be missing the full mark of what God's bride is to be. And then you're enacting your bylaws instead of actually practicing discipline that leads to repentance which is gross and disgusting so yeah this article was all sorts of dumb all sorts of dumb. Trying to do some sort of hermeneical gymnastics to paint the idea of family in the scripture as not what God calls it like even if you can even think about Jesus when in the quintessential passage to help those in Catholic Catholicism when when Jesus is in a crowded house teaching and Mary and his brothers in the church. Come to pull Jesus out because Mary is concerned for Jesus that he's calling it drawing too much attention to himself and it could cause problems. They literally tell Jesus in the house like your mother is outside your mother and your brothers are outside and he says who is my mother who is my brother is it not those who are here listening who are are doing the will of God. That's direct family language from the mouth of Christ so it's just absolutely ignorant to try to somehow finagle the idea of the Greek concept of household in here. Right and as if the household was seen as anything other than a mother any father and the children like it doesn't mean more than that it can't possibly could mean more than that it can't mean less than that it's not possible to mean less than that. See the whole running of the household like in the economy of the running of the household in in as the as the means of producing and growing and and stewarding and you could incorporate pets or land or or the functioning of the household but you can't make it less than mother father kids. So please if you're not if you're going to say I'm not going to refer to the church as a family understand you're saying I am not going to do what God has called the church I'm not going to follow him in the language he uses for the church you are volitionally choosing to reject what God has said in his word. Because you have mapped onto what God has said and superseded it with what culture has said what culture has or even even make a personal what I personally have struggled with or have experienced and you're putting that over and above superseding what God has called it is word don't do that that's a big problem. In the two categories the article tries to address in language and expectations all it does is try to cater to unbelievers or hurt people or people with church hurt and honestly I don't care what they think if the Bible uses language use the language you don't get to not do that you don't get to say that you know better than God you don't get to say you're trying to be more loving than God you don't try to you don't you don't get to try to say that you're being more relatable than God. That's not your purview like we don't get to do that we we are the clay we don't get to tell the potter what to do sorry you don't like it but like whatever. This is my attitude the other red flag in this article is that in the top right hand corner there's a link to this nois blue sky which is a huge red flag. Huge red flag like the danger kind. Oh good they only have a hundred and twenty dollars. By the way just just for biblical transparency mark chapter three starting at 31 that's where Jesus communicates I guess I could read it. Then his mother and his brothers arrived and standing outside they said word to him and called him a crowd was sitting around him and they said to him behold your mother and your brothers are outside looking for your answering them he said who are my mother and my brothers looking about those who were sitting around him he said behold my mother and my brothers forever does the will of God he is my brother and sister and mother. And consequently inside of Catholicism given their views on Mary this would imply that Mary and his brothers were seeking him to stop doing the will of God and therefore in this moments not acting like his mother or brother of actual spiritual meaning as opposed to the just simple biological nature just FYI. Problematic for a sinless woman that you should pray to for all sorts of help probably probably should just needed to save your like Jesus so. She might think about that in her song nonetheless. Best talking about the many errors on internets with Catholics so another thing that they just just thanks for bringing with us on that I'm sure many of you are like yet but also like no we we must hold biblical categories we we don't have we don't have categories if we can't turn to what got us said and we can turn to what the God said boom there it is we have to be careful to not listen when God speaks he has been clear let's be clear. I feel great that was cathartic. Yeah it felt like a podcast that we've recorded previously and yet no one else has heard. I came across a very interesting this is like not like big news headlines this is like this came across stuff that really maybe just stop and think also just say that your new guinea pig is on crack I have no idea what he has but I want whatever he has. So they get very sorry we got a new guinea pig and we actually just kind of guinea pig zoomies we that's exactly what he has. Race track and we just kind of read it is cage a little bit so it's got like a to level effect thing he when I can rearrange my living room I don't go run around in circles and it's wild. But in the mornings and at night they're very active and so he's just having a good time out there is running and jumping they call it pop corning when they just like pop pop. And they turn pop pop very fun anyway this is the joys of being comfy in our in the living room instead of a cold dark dark basement. I'll just took it away I don't know where I don't know how it's okay it's quieter now. I can't make any big sounds I've tried I want to make it like I don't know I like my dog she responds when I talk to her. I feel like the guinea pig just looks like a rat. It's never know what it's a fancy rat. It is thinking whatever it is programmed to think it mostly just thinks will you feed me are you feeding me am I being fed it's all things. And I have more cocaine please. Okay you know feed me and I will poop in this corner. Oh getting a big life. Oh does it centralize it's it's it's still it does tend to poop in one spot usually they poop they poop more or less where they're you know eating. They're a rat they just that's you know how like when you find mice dropping because it's right next to the package of crackers that are broken to in the cupboard. That's because they they're just a factory of consuming pooping. Just a truck is very fast centimeter slow very fast all right that's enough of this rat talk. You're supposed to got trash I got a good bit of traction on Twitter like it's not like I'm not saying I blew up Twitter but it was just caused a lot of thinking. It's a little pondering. It's by Murray Hill guy now Murray Hill guy actually did get some traction his he had a post that went kind of viral on like some of the new stations about a conversation. I don't know if you may or may not have heard this but it was a text conversation between a guy and a girl that were setting up a date. And basically the text went something like hey are we still on for drinks and such as time and the woman responded with yes but I just had some questions real quick about your views because he's he's based in New York that's probably helpful. I have some questions about your views on mayor mom Donnie because I would really you know struggle with somebody that basically is just like totally like at a Boeing mom Donnie and the guy was simply replied with a screenshot that said your reservations have been canceled. They were talking about it on on I believe Fox News picked it up so they get some traction but this one post that he had it's got like 13.4 million views it's gotten some traction but the post was very interesting and I actually think it was probably more of a troll post than anything else given what I've seen from this guy so far on his Twitter but here's here's the post here's the post. How do people in the suburbs genuinely look forward to Friday night on the couch Saturday morning at Costco and call that a weekend like you really moved out of the city just to larp as your parents at 34. Which is obviously I don't know if it's entirely troll he probably loves living in the city and this is probably the genuine part he probably really does think that the suburbs are totally lame and loves the city. And I will fight for his right to stay confined in the city. Yeah like I see like a find it for example this is there's and when it turns into an article we just put up a wall and keep them all trapped inside. He puts up some random lists by the way which they're really entertaining so here's one updated places in New York City to meet to meet your future wife that aren't dating apps or bars. Nowhere the answer nowhere run run to the suburbs where you can find a church and by the way anyway here's here's the list already. Macha shops in the East Village. Macha shops you know that is I know what Macha is the green drink yeah it's the chopped up green tea leaves very very fine matcha the west side highway Saturday morning I don't know where the west side highway is. It sounds like a dangerous place to go. That's a homeless in Cuba. And why are our races parentheses look up her bib number after which sounds totally creepy what it's racing like you look up the bib number of the chick that you thought she was attractive. Sweet green that's not objectification I don't know what is no sweet green which I'm assuming is some sort of eatery it's an impredeces steal her order and look up after apologizing. Here's a gross one you ready this guy CVS pharmacy if they're getting birth control. Run clubs that aren't for dating. JFK turn before I don't know what that is. Are these all the places he's raped women. I'm not saying that I have not saying that question pretend to be sick at NYU on 34th Street and flirt with the nurse. Pilates classes so anyway let's just give you a taste this is he's definitely trying to sense coming from the guy who's bio is five feet six figures seven inches. Yeah well wait a put your pay scale out there he has in poverty living in New York he has a weird it's this weird this guy is like that that new left. Right movement like. He wants to make New York City great again at the same time. Everything he's focused on actually doesn't have any foundation whatsoever it's like hey I know some of this is bad but also everything I think is also bad it's not a little. Yeah he's like I don't know like zoom or. Slop is like zoom or talk Carlson I guess I don't know. But this is really interesting how do people in the suburbs genuinely look for Friday night on the couch Saturday morning at Calesco and call out a weekend. Like you really move out of the city just to larp as your parents at 34. Great great response how do people in the city genuinely look for a Friday night at a bar Saturday morning hung over on the couch and call out a weekend. Like you really moved to the city just to larp as a 23 year old at 34 years old. Like that that's basically the reverse. It's the genuine reality and when you hear about where he's where he says you can try to meet a wife I think it pretty much like. Shows you all you need to know this this person isn't going to actually meet a wife there like that's not what you're you're not looking for legacy or any of your building. You're looking for someone that you think is hot and you can you know sleep with with a ring I guess maybe like that's maybe your hope. But you're not looking for for foundation and lasting the reality of this is when I look at my family what I realize is I've. I'm taking hold of what God has given that is good. And I'm not looking for something that I'm going to make with my own hands out of out of mud when God has offered me the ocean. I see a solution to say and I'm not going to do that that's that's foolishness. The genuine eternal aspects of the home are so deeply, biblically grounded that it makes a post like this and like he totally as the kids would say dude gets hard in the comments like so hard. I struggled to find any comment that even remotely remotely like in a half like glancing away agreed with him at all. None. None like it's it's bad. Because the reality is building your family marrying a woman having children. You you seek to do that in the suburbs you seek to do that in the country you seem to do that. You often see you do away from the city because the city is a place that is designed to not be sent to the family. Going are these the times where where the city was the center where you did have a family and you tried to build something they have they have ripped that away from the city and led it towards places that actually breed you to be and polished or overly entitled and demanding and polished or you're very rich and you leave the city because they're trying to take off your stuff like the idea is is going I just remember like I think we're going back. She's what we go back 20 years we're talking like like John Blake not John Piper. Freaking Manhattan Manhattan guy Tim Keller Tim Keller we're going back to like I he had a book called Center Church where was the whole idea that we need to influence the cultural centers of the city so that we can then infiltrate it with the gospel to gospel can propagate that is not that is not. But what is not what's happening the gospel actually probably gets the most when it leaves the confines of of the city and spreads throughout the world that's that's the understanding of how the gospel goes forward so it it's a different reality and he just underlines it so clearly when he thinks that yes I look forward I look forward to watching a show with my family or a movie and talking about it and laughing together and sharing a meal and going to the store because everything is so real and eternal when you're doing that. So real and eternal and I also look forward to going to a fancy cocktail bar with my wife and sitting in a joint time with her too. Those become like so much more special than when you think that that is your weekend on a Friday night with random strangers. No no it turns out like nobody's nobody's highlight should be I spent $40 on an old fashioned at a bar that was too loud for me to have a conversation at that's that if that's your highlight of what you're looking for to your weekend for you're doing it way wrong. Like so wrong I can't express the wrong you're doing it that's like the opposite of fulfillment it is emptiness it's trying to fill up emptiness with more emptiness. And ironically that was a lot of the comments a lot of the comments are like do you really lonely like I'm really sorry for you like do you need. Do you need help to do a friend. How unfulfilled are you. It's like yeah facts because you you and the reality of it is is this this whole. This whole like leftist right version of reality is is so bad you were talking about it at the marriage conference how nominal Christian. Family's actually husband's actually do more damage than then unsaved husbands do yeah when it comes to domestic violence divorce rates. This is like this is this is nominal Christian views I want benefits I want I want the city to be run well I want there to be law I want there to be but also I want to live in a world where I meet my wife at JFK terminal for or I get or she's super high. When I was in this race and so I stole her big number I stalk her or I stole her order at a at a restaurant everything he lists is a crime like CVS about to be a crime like I'm looking for a CVS because she's buying birth control like you don't want a family you don't even understand you don't have the basis of understanding of what it would be to have a meaningful relationship with a woman in a marriage like you have no concept. So of course you run to emptiness for your fulfillment you you're constantly looking for the next weekend when you can hopefully go out and find some you know what for hours of fulfillment having a bar and drinks and love music and maybe finding some random have blind person that has no thoughts in their heads to satisfy your sexual desires like of course like you want the benefits of law and order while you create literal disorder in your own life. And that's a real problem. So you just be on the lookout for that that this whole area of people that don't know how to conserve their own lineage like their own name trying to tell you that they are in somebody going to tell you how to conserve anything it's just a horrible mistake horrible mistake. Yeah, the influencer, clavicular area of the internet is absolutely retarded. Capital R. No cap. How long have you been going? Can I talk to you on this story because I find it fascinating. We're going to 34 minutes. Oh, come on. 10 minutes of the story is fine. I don't care. You don't care. So back in 2015 way back go back in the way back machine speaking your way back. I was going to be my 15 year old son goes to the gym with me every morning and it's awesome. I do love it and it makes me do some crazy things at the gym just exercises that are good and challenging for me but also not your standard bench overhead press squat. We're doing some interesting things but nonetheless we're walking to our car today and he's like, oh, look at that. Look at that. That's that athletic. Oh, God. Look at him. He parked his car. His old quiver way over there so it doesn't get scratched. I turn around expecting to see like, I don't know like 80s. You know what the earliest maybe like a nice 60s like we're getting like a stingray quiver. I turn around. It's a 2007 Corvette. I'm like, dude, that is not an older one. But anyway, 2015 to him would probably be 10,000 years ago in the Stone Age back in 2015. One of the seven women's colleges known as the seven sisters Smith College decided to begin admitting transgender women. I know like, why are we talking about this 2015? Everyone was admitting transgender women in 2015. Basically, the Board of Trustees in 2015 voted to clarify Smith College's admission policy and they made a big announcement. The Board's decision affirms Smith's unwavering mission and identity as a woman's college which is so fascinating. This one points out there their decision to allow transgender people affirmed their unwavering mission and identity as a woman's college. Anyway, he goes on our commitment to representing the diversity of women's lived experiences. This is like straight 1984 animal farm level retardedness. It's so dumb. And college's exceptional role in the advancement of women, women, that's the word used, worldwide. Let's see, let's see. There was basically a student in 2013 that was refused to consider an application of this transgender student was named Caliope Wong. Caliope Wong? Caliope. That's it. We're going to go with that. Caliope Wong. Either way, it sounds like a potential male STD and also a male youthmism. Caliope Wong. You're definitely a doctor. I just think it was a Greek myth. Oh, great. It was some use of epic poetry. So I kind of feel justified because them Greek myths. Weird to happen to them. Basically a petition went out and 4000 signatures to let Wong in the college. And basically 2015 they just accepted trans students. And I know what you're thinking. Obviously there must have been some sort of documentation. No, no, it is specifically if they are living with the totally subjective view that they are a woman you're in. This includes even those that are cisgendered or non-binary. If you believe you're a woman, then they will accept you at Smith College Women's University. That's all you have to do. You simply say, my name is Justin Gruber. I am a woman. That's it. Why? Because they can't question it. They rejected all rationality that would give them any sort of standard. Yes. And that's back in 2015. I'm giving you this because it actually provides some wonderful context to what's currently happening with Smith College. It turns out the Department of Education has opened an investigation into Smith College. Specifically because get this, they're allowing men at a college that receive subsidies for being a woman's college expressly. Which means according to, I don't know, normal mental faculties, they're allowing men in what are supposed to be clear and obvious protected spaces for women. That's the Trump administration. The Trump administration has launched a Title Died of Estigation into Smith College. Specifically because they are allowing biological men into the woman's college. Like, well done. You don't get to receive subsidies from the government for a college that was started back in the 1800s with the express purpose of educating women. And we can talk about all that at a different totally different podcast. That was their goal in some sort of very entry level first wave feminism movement. Well, that was their first message. That's what we're saying. I'm just saying, this is way back in first wave feminism. You now get to see how progressiveism, which is the religion of the day in our modern culture. Progressiveism has actually begun to eat itself because now the men get to go to the women's college because men can be the best women to. So unfortunately for them, the Trump administration has defined very clearly the fact that there are only two biological sex. They've basically just admitted what reality has shown all along. And because there's only two and you're allowing both, you have a problem. You have a real, real problem. You don't get to be a women's college and receive the benefits of being a woman's college from the government if you've got dudes. They've been very clear about this. I do like the clarity. The problem here, they're being investigated for admitting biological men and granting them access to women only spaces including dormitories, bathrooms, locker rooms, and athletic teams. Yeah, that's pretty much. That's it. That's a problem. That's where we have the problem, guys. If you want to be a very confused dude that says you're a woman, you know what? I will pray for you for repentance. I'll talk to you all day long. That's not a problem for me. That is a definite problem for you. But if you think you get to go into spaces where there's other women, I'm going to allow a mentally unstable man into a space where women should be safe from mentally unstable men, you have a problem. Pretty much, you know, any culture that's ever had a separate and safe space for a woman to go like the bathroom has always found that to be a problem. You're going to go back to like serious ancient times when women didn't have safe spaces. I guess you could say, yeah, sure, there was no problems back then. But anytime there's been a space where this is for this here, this room is where the women go. And then a mentally unstable dude goes into that everyone was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy. You get the heck out of here right now. So anyway, I find the simple acknowledgement of reality, slightly refreshing. That's all I was really thinking here. I mean, it is refreshing. It's like, I love, I actually thought you sent me the same article twice. Oh, no, no, no, then I read it. And it was like, I was like, why send me one from 2015, then I actually read the title. And then I clicked to the other one and I'm like, it is. I mean, and like, I feel like at least on the right there's there's just some weird things happening. There's there's weird like fractures. And I really want to I really want to read a, oh, man, where can I just see it? Doug Wilson just read a recent article that I'm really interested in reading. So and I haven't read it yet. So I don't even really know honestly what it's about because you just never know. Hold on, let me get the title of it. The title is Slicker than a pocket full of pudding. And where was the clue? Who posted that? You're going to do it. I believe in you. Why can't I fucking find? I believe in you, buddy. Oh, water boy. Why can't I find gay brunch? All right. The the Query pool. It says the majority of those on the left and on the right and on the Dancreite were educated by relativists and it shows. So I'm really interested to see what kind of point he makes because like there are people that I'm just talking about generally politically now because I was thinking about this. It's like, well, this is a good thing. This is a good thing that the Trump administration is doing, right? The Department of Education should be looking into this because people are stupid and they're doing stupid evil, sinful things with this whole with trans ideology. And that's a win. Yeah, like that's that's a good thing that they're doing that. But like you have people that that think Trump is God, which I know very few people that actually believe that that believe that he can truly do nothing wrong or believe that he's a man without flaw. Yeah, but really very very few. I don't really think anybody. I think I know like one or two people that might actually think that but I've never asked them directly. I know a lot a lot a lot of people. Yeah. And so you know the most measured view with anybody with any political figure is that sometimes they do and say things that are good and sometimes they do and say things that are bad. And most of the time our government sucks and doesn't actually do what's in the best interest of righteousness. I love my country. I hate my government. Yeah, that type of thing. But like, but like there's people that would. There's people on the right now that any time Trump does anything it's evil. And it's I'm like, well, that's not really a balanced way of thinking. You know what I mean? So like I'm interested to see what this article from Doug Wilson actually does because how we are educated how we are trained to think is how we think. And I'm like, I look at people on Twitter specifically. And I'm like, that's not really a balanced way of actually trying to come to an understanding of what's happening. That's not really a realistic way to think. And it's not helpful. It doesn't actually it doesn't it doesn't give you any time you're 100% in either way. Right. Because like let's be honest, the two people I know that I think that I do believe think that everything Trump does is good. Like I write them off just as much as I do. Like the many different political viewpoints I do of many homosexual people that I interact with and know. Like because they're so skewed it excuse you so dramatically. That there's not there's no helpful discourse there to even be had. Right. And there's just way more there's just way better people to recommend in terms of thought leaders than someone who doesn't actually think and process things well. Like yeah, I can acknowledge and say yeah, I agree with them on that. Even though I'm like, I don't think I would repost them because they're not consistent in how they actually process life. It's weird. Well, I mean the reality of what the Wilson would call the dank right what I think I think the daily wire articles that read call it the new left that's on the right. The reality of those particular people and I mean you're saying what I the main the big personality is like talk of Carlson or Candace Owens or what can I think it was freaking name. The white supremacist podcast guy, the young Nick Fuentes. He's not a white supremacist. He just says that stuff for just the shock. But like here's the thing but it doesn't really make it any better. No, like you can defend every just defense these guys and it's fine. I don't care. You can defend Nick Fuentes. I don't care. I don't care. I personally turned like a lot of the times when I went news I will I'll always go to the briefing. I will go to daily wire. And you know what I do every time I filter through like whenever whenever Albert Mueller starts going, starts talking about things that are escalological in nature. I'm always immediately going to balance that because you know what I don't know that I necessarily agree with him on those things. You know what when I go to the daily wire, you know I don't like I'm not like oh I must but he I hear everything they say no I don't care. I don't care. You want to I can dump on Ben Shapiro or any other conservative voice for the things I think that they think are stupid. I think Andrew Klaven has some of the funniest satire openings of any human being out there. They're hilarious. Can I tell you something? I find his views on Jesus Christ, the gospel on Christianity, be intensely, publicly flawed and intensely undermining of the truth of how powerful the gospel is. This is just the reality of how you have to treat anything. If you want a defendant, just defend it for us all you want. You want to defend, talk, crawl into finnable you want. Here's the problem. Three years ago, they were saying different things. And now they're saying whole new different things. And at some point you just have to acknowledge that there's a weird money grab going on with these people that are trying to undercut and subvert the general ethos of conservatism, which was to I don't know, conservatism. Just just in the name. They want money. That's all it is out of the day. But you can't just take everything anyone says. But that evaluating through the lens of God, his word and what is a biblical reality. That's what you have to do. Like I'm sorry, if you were turning to somebody like Nick Fuentes or Ben Shapiro or Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens, right. If you're turning to any of these people as some sort of moral framework, they are not good moral frameworks anymore. You know, I can't even I can't even I don't even know I can get on board with with with how much, you know, nicotine, Tucker Carlson is ingesting. I think it may have affected him. It's just a lot. It's too many help to be outpacks. But like the basic we got away off a totally different topic. Yeah, I was going to kind of veered. I just it's very fascinating though. It is. If I was more awake, I would discuss it more. But I mean, it's it's just concerning. It's just the what when we look and that's why I think. I mean, that's why I think that I actually like going back and re-listing to our podcast because I feel like we try to be balanced and smart and compose our thinking consistently. And I think that that's I think it's really important. I think it's important to model that. I think it's really important to encourage other people to do that too. I think I have I just not to get caught up in the in the rage bee and the right. It's all just really. It's what it really is. And and that's where my concern comes because when I see crossover between somebody like chunkweager and Tucker Carlson, you know, I get concerned because I see two people that are both trying to take the extremes of their particular political paradigms and elevate them to see which one will win. Like their hope the hope of the extreme left is that they would crush the middle and the hope of the extreme right is that they would crush the middle. And then they each think that they will win out because they're the better idea. And so they're willing to come together on issues like we hate to Jews. And you know, maybe Russia and China are a good idea. You know, like America is really bad. Like they come together on these ideas. I just I think the true reality of the American populace is that they are tend to be a little more center in most of their ideologies. Like they're not actually super extreme. I don't think it's either one of these ideas is long for the mainstream. I think they'll do great in the cities where everything goes to die. But but when I look at this particular policy from the trouble administration to say there's only two genders, I see that conforming with God's standard of reality. And what it really makes me long for is the desire that I know there will never there's never going to be a perfect human leader that's just the reality. But but I long for that consistency in all aspects of governance. You know, like I want this consistency to apply to how we deal with foreign policy and how we deal with abortion and how we deal with crime overall. And I want it to be complied consistently into the tax system and to like all of these areas I want biblical consistency. And I want to celebrate it here and say, yeah, duh. If you're going to be a college that's supposed to be safe for women, you can have dudes specifically under title nine. You're given a specific section for all gendered Scott colleges or either male or female. You're now abusing that you have failed. Like I want that. But I want it consistently everywhere. And I think that just requires a lot more repentance and a lot more praying and a lot more clear speaking by Christians in the culture in the everyday culture with everyday human beings. We went somewhere with that. Yeah, gee, it was. Yeah, I just want to say, you know, that's okay. I don't hate I don't hate Tucker Carlson. I don't hate Nick Fuentes. I don't hate Candace Owens. I don't hate. I don't hate Ben Shapiro. I don't hate Andrew Cleven. I actually don't even hate Andrew Cleven's son. I wish that he would come to know the full truth of the gospel Jesus Christ. Let's mention Cleven for those of you that don't know who is a professing homosexual. I believe married to a dude. It's very problematic with his views of Christianity and what the gospel says. This is where like I want to be consistent because I want to hold up God's word and his truth as authority. We need that. And here's one area where it's being done. There's dudes and there's chicks and you're a chick college and you got dudes. You don't get to be a chick college with the dudes. It's very, very simple. Closing, closing, cobbet in the article. It's a vicious vendetta against a small, vulnerable group of kids. And it is a long past time for anyone who cares about how these young people and their families must be feeling to really stand up to this. That was a quote by Worse's name. Oh, it's a way up here. Mentor. Worse's first name. I can't find his first name. Anyway, Mr. Mentor is a lawyer who advocates for transgender rights. And I say to Mr. Mentor, the reality here is I actually want to truly stand up for these children. I want to truly stand up and help them understand that they are warring against God. And that you don't win that. That doesn't end in joy and fulfillment. That ends in sadness and suffering. And I don't want that for them or their families. I want good for them. I want true good, meaningful, deep, real good. And you're not going to get that being pumped up with hormones or chopping off body parts. It's not going to be how you're going to get it. You get that through repentance and acceptance by God through the shed blood of Jesus Christ, the power of the resurrection. That's how you get it. And it's ridiculous to think that there's some sort of vicious vendetta. That's absolutely ridiculous. There's a vicious vendetta. The sadness is that somehow progressivism is elevated. This is a cultural issue when it's absolutely ridiculous. These people need help and help doesn't mean affirming insanity. That's just that's a horrible evil thing to do. So I think this is a good win. I believe that Smith wasn't even the first female college. So they refer to them as the seven sisters. Let me read them all off because you don't know what they are. Unless you live near one of these colleges, you don't know these colleges. We know Vassar because we're in this area. Vassar is now not a woman's college. It's actually co-ed. But let's see, Barnard, Brynmore, Mount Holyoke, Holyoke, Holyoke, Smith College, West Wellesley. That's where Hillary Clinton went. Wellesley, Wellesley and Vassar used to be, but they actually in 1969 became co-educational. The seventh was Radcliffe College, but that's merged with Harvard in 1999. So now it's just I guess five sisters really. I think almost all five sisters actually now accept transgender students. Smith is just the first of these dominoes to have some questions raised. I would anticipate more going forward. So that's a positive. We need more really good positives conforming to obvious biblical standards. It's just not this should be this should be this hard. I shouldn't be this hard. There's three things to hopefully get you thinking about how cultural engagement is so intensely important. We must elevate a clear biblical standard because honestly it's so rationally freeing to hold up God's word as a standard. So rationally freeing. At this point I'm going to... I was about to say something, but it would have left out another trail. Oh no, go ahead and say it. No, no, no. I don't really want to go down there. I dare you. I dare you to say it. It just made me think my I used to know I used to know this guy used to work with him. He was a philosophy major. He studies philosophy. He was incredibly difficult. He was incredibly frustrating to talk to because people that study philosophy without a grounding in anything are incredibly frustrating people to talk to because they pull from anything and everything. You don't really ever know what they're talking about because they're not grounded. Recently I one of his posts floated by on Facebook. I'm like, oh that's weird. I haven't heard from him forever. Then he ended up commenting on one of my posts the next day. I made the comment. I said, it's funny. I was just thinking about you the other day and reading some of your musings which just end up like if a Starbucks coffee cup could write an article. It's kind of like how that would turn out. Hopefully you can visualize what I was talking about. I told him I replied to his comment. I said, I was thinking about you the other day. Just maybe think how incredibly frustrating it must be to study philosophy without God. Because God is the ultimate. He is the ultimate. Ultimate truth is found and flows from God. Without that knowledge, without understanding, your brain doesn't bite down on anything. You're just endlessly studying but never learning. You know what I mean? Endlessly studying, never learning. He's just like, I don't know what you mean. I find it incredibly freeing. I'm thinking to myself, of course you do. You can do whatever you want because nothing matters and you don't really believe anything. There's no substance. There's absolutely no substance. What you said just reminding me of that. It's a fact. I just remember how much I loved symbolic logic and I still remember my professor's name. His name was Matthew Lund. And I remember going to his office and just talking with him about my philosophical understanding of the scriptures and I was 80 and I was like 20. 22. I wasn't even 22. I was probably 19 20. How long ago was that? I didn't even know where 19. My son would say, oh, man, dad, that was like so old. You're just always 30. Yeah, that's fine. But I remember just talking with him and even back then he didn't have any satisfactory answers. And I'm talking like, this was one of my introductions into my love of logic and symbolic logic was such a great class. And I loved it. And I remember him like he kept coming. He kept asking me these questions. And I'm like, did your professor why are you asking me stupid questions? Super nice, very soft spoken soft spoken voice. Very calm. And I'm like, gosh, this is gross. Do you do you have serious questions about faith? Are you going to like anyway, you're the owner there. Nothing new under the sun. It's a fact though, always learning but never understanding. So shame. Well, hopefully this is in Peter interest into engaging culturally and just some topics, you know, family, you know, family. And then biology just didn't a bunch of fun topics tonight. And I hope that, you know, this is something that's going to spur you on to your Christian to engage open your mouth. Read God's word. Know it so you can engage and speak with it in the culture wherever you go, just like the Shema says wherever you are, that is where you should be speaking and learning of God. And as you come to the end, you know that we want to tell you that we hope you this day would seize the faith.

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